This trick has been many times in many debates over history. It is a simple turn to be done, because humanity has a sense of logic, can not be denied. It is simply brainwashed by someone like me, statements or Epicurus, because we have the impression that if you feel, in a case, you are a fool, because you think one thing, clearly contrary to something else, and that something else is more and more precise "against part of what we try to refute them. This kind of thing reminds me of a quote from a character in the film Men in Black "A person is not stupid people are stupid." Only one person can easily brainwashed many people, but many can not so easily brainwashed into his cult of Other candidates for membership, but may be an individual may, if he or she is appropriate and sufficiently convincing speaker. It notes, as it is a real circle most of the time? This is what happens if someone a tour of the logical statement, to some extent, where it began.
It's not so easy to make this tour, if you start with such statements such as "There is no God", unless atheist, back on the "problem of evil", as Epicurus fact , And the statement rephrases something that "God can not be because it defines humanity as love is when God, then we should not on a concept of evil." Or something simple as: "It can not be a God of love, because we have a lot of suffering in the world."
Before we answer the big question, the question, an atheist who is still used for believers Stumpf, allow me, obviously, something has something, and everybody knows that logic, if we examine what is complex must be We note that they came from an intelligent source. And regardless of how many billions of years (can we assume) mainly through the creation of the living cell, for example, we should all know that this is a hell of a dice for something complex contact by chance. For example, a car (which is much less complex in a cell), left in pieces spread of junk mail in a shipyard, we all know, it is quite unlikely that the car is at any given time consist of chance whether the pieces left for millions of years. And even if the car and that anyway, because the wind and other natural sources is lucky over many years, the start of vehicle? So, I repeat once again that if we try to circumnavigate the logic of a direction atheist perspective, it only works if we judge the existence of God by adoption, because we have impiety / evil in the world there can be "just" God, as Epicurus wanted to prove, in his statement.
Before that technology has been tasked to investigate the air we breathe, how could we prove that we have someone breathing air? Nobody wants to ask how such a question "Are you breathing air" because they know so well the answer you, "Yes, I'm breathing, so I'm breathing air. But let us assume that you are wondering, you asked this question, and if you gave them the answer you pulled back to you with another question: "How do you know you're breathing air? Can you see? "It would probably do not really know how to respond. I could say what you say?" I just learned, because I can not breath. "I know that this is all stoner talk and try to get immersed in the topics that really is not as complex, but that's what you have to do if you do not want to believe in an intelligent designer / God.